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Thursday, January 15, 2015

Corporations Are Citizens, but Neither are People.

The Legal Position of Corporations, and Why Corporations are Citizens and Why Neither of them are People in the Eyes of the Law


Are Corporations People?
Why is a corporation a people or citizen?


There is a lot of confusion going around the internet about corporations and their status in the eyes of the law.  It appears that this recent uproar came about May of 2013 when Hobby Lobby sued over Federal requirements for mandatory healthcare. After searching back through this "news" I have noticed a lot of misunderstanding and misperception in regards to a corporations or buisenss legal statues. The only case where I can find a corporation being considered people is during Mitt Romney's speeches, and his thoughts on the matter are far from the truth and it all has to do with wording. To comprehend why a business is a citizen but not a people we need to loo at some definitions. 

Businesses and corporations are citizens, some people are citizens as well, or in fact nowadays most people. A citizen is a a "legally recognized subject or national of a state or commonwealth, either native or naturalized." A legally recognized subject meaning subject to the jurisdiction of a higher authority, this jurisdiction may be imposed by force or just misinformation.  

A corporation created by and transacting business in a state is to be deemed an inhabitant of the state, capable of being treated as a citizen for all purposes of suing and being sued, and an averment of the facts of its creation and the place of transacting business is sufficient to give the circuit courts jurisdiction.                    Louisville, Cincinnati & Charleston R. Co. v. Letson  43 U.S. 497 (1844)

The People gave life to the government and are the owners, or caretakers of such entity.  The People give life to the government for the protection of their rights, liberties and happiness. The people have divine rights granted by our nature and or our creator. A person, which is basically another word for a citizen, has traded their rights onto the government and stepped under the government, the government in turn offers the persons or citizens privileges, which it deems suitable and or necessary. The citizens which may be humans, corporations, businesses of other fictitious entities have allowed the government to have jurisdiction over them.  

This is how a corporation or business can be a citizen or a person, because the very definition of these words includes them in their being.  A human may become a citizen, and place themselves on the same level as a corporation, which is below the government.  Citizens enjoy things like government aid, social security, credit cards, bank accounts etc. A human citizen can easily become a people again by correcting their behavior and living in accordance with the highest laws, but most citizens remain ignorant to the system and remain where they are comfortable instead of doing the right thing. People can also enjoy government grants and funding to start businesses, schools etc. but the must be aware of their position and standing as well as the supreme law of the land and universal law at all times. 

It makes complete and total sense that a corporation is a person or citizen, and it makes sense that they will make actions to acquire rights for themselves similar to those of the people that run them.  A citizen is a subject of the jurisdiction of a higher authority, a US citizen is subject to the authority of the US government. A corporation being recognized as a citizen is a LIMITATION and not a benefit. If a corporation were not a citizen it would not be subject to the jurisdiction of our governments authority.
Corporations are citizens for a very good reason, if they were not citizens no one could punish them for the crimes they commit. 
...at the Revolution, the sovereignty devolved on the people; and they are truly the sovereigns of the country, but they are sovereigns without subjects...with none to govern but themselves..... [CHISHOLM v. GEORGIA (US) (1793)]






Response to "10 Supreme Court Rulings—Before Hobby Lobby—That Turned Corporations Into People"

For a better informed point of view on this Response. 
Please read before continuing:

Corporations Are Citizens, but Neither are People

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In the eyes of US Law corporations and businesses for that matter are considered citizens.  This idea was given life in the early 1800's when it was decided that corporations were considered citizens of the state in which they reside.  I find it amusing that this fact seems to rile people up and get them so upset.  If we look at the wording of the cases in which corporations are considered citizens, we see that they are not granted the rights of the People, as only the People can have actual rights and not citizens.  It is important to note that even a 'person' is typically a legal term used to refer to a citizen. 

So while corporations are fighting for their rights as citizens, as the People have granted them permission to do, many 'persons' are getting upset about these things.  I must declare that instead of getting upset about what privileges companies are working towards having as citizens, it is more important for each of the People to stand up and recognize their own rights as People, and not lower themselves to citizen status.  Our rights as People are currently alive and active, but should we forget to give them breath and instead give our breath to the privileges of corporations, they will be lost in the pages of musty history books.

As amused as I am by the anger and frustration expressed at the decisions to call corporations citizens and to grant them 'rights', I am also saddened at knowing that many people do not recognize that citizens are recognized as corporations with privileges, and these 'citizens' (the ones that really are people) bicker amongst themselves regarding the supreme court decisions, they are trading in their rights as People, for privileges as citizens by lowering themselves to the level of a corporation, even though they feel that the corporation is being raised up to their level. 

Do some research into Supreme Court law and you will find that in nearly all circumstances the Right's of the People are held above all other law and statutes issued by and for the citizens.  Even many cases are held in favor of people that believe they are citizens when fundamental rights are at stake.  Throughout my site and the internet itself you will find oodles of law that has been passed from the Supreme Court for the protection of the people and people believing they are citizens.  


The Supreme Court and most systems of law are not out enemy, they are tools used for good and bad like everything else.  Don't be deceived by those who's hearts are filled with hate and minds full of ignorance. Educate yourself on the issues of law and the people's rights my site is an infinitesimally small example of what kind of information is available for the People to use. 


This article was written in response to the claims of the article linked below and the commentary of those who posted there. The article does have some very valuable information and indeed taught me some new things, however the title is misleading and so are some of the points made.